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...when every time you try to pass the ball more than 10 yards you throw it ten yards over the top of your receiver? I guess you have to rely on running for the big gains?
How does one correct this? I won't go back to look but I was saying (and I know others have too) that this has been happening from day one in a post or two from years past.
Also, what has happened to Rashad Johnson? He had a great deal of chances to intercept the ball last week and couldn't, and also made other mistakes (watch the Clemson game again). This continued into this week.
Anyway, just a couple of my observations...
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2-0 and already time for meltdown mode? sounds about right.
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Oh yeah I forgot, "meltdown mode", right...
John Parker Wilson for Heisman!!
Hey, he IS at ALABAMA, after all.
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someone explain to me why when julio or mccoy is 1 on 1 waaaay down near the goal line against a team like tulane... why don't you just throw a jump ball and let the taller man go up and get it or draw the foul???
why does JP try to throw the 40 yard pass on a rope? i understand with someone the height of maze as that might be a liability, but with the taller guys???
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| ijijmijij wrote: | Oh yeah I forgot, "meltdown mode", right...
John Parker Wilson for Heisman!!
Hey, he IS at ALABAMA, after all. |
Are you literally out of your mind? I really don't understand people like you. JPW is not the best QB to ever throw a ball, nor is he the worst.
Did anyone ever sit down and teach you about football, did you ever play the sport?
How many times was Wilson drove into the sod at BDS last night? How many times was he flushed? How many times was he rushed?
How many times did the offensive line fail to perform their duties properly? How many of them should be replaced?
How many times has the offensive line cost 'Bama football games in the last 10 years? You are silly and by blaming the dismal performance of this team on JPW, you clearly and undeniably illustrate that you know as much about football as you do about common sense.
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| jdpas29 wrote: | someone explain to me why when julio or mccoy is 1 on 1 waaaay down near the goal line against a team like tulane... why don't you just throw a jump ball and let the taller man go up and get it or draw the foul???
why does JP try to throw the 40 yard pass on a rope? i understand with someone the height of maze as that might be a liability, but with the taller guys??? |
If it were that easy, football teams would recruit 6'8" guys who casually walked down to the end zone, turned around and simply waited on the jump ball for a 100% guaranteed touchdown.
Football, as a sport, would be revolutionized. Football coaches would hardly even be needed any longer, coordinators would be a thing of the past.
In fact, you would only need a quarterback and one receiver that stood anywhere from 6'8" to 7ft. tall. No other players would be necessary.
Let's all try to be reasonable about things. You can't throw jump balls in an alley-oop fashion whenever you think it is a good idea. Those kind of passes are not precise, they can't be directed to go exactly where they need to go, it just doesn't make sense.
Hey, I have an idea. Why not have an offensive line that can protect a quarterback or open a running lane. I know that is a strange suggestion and doesn't exactly fit in with the new wave of offensive strategy sweeping the nation, but let's give it a shot.
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| CtrlAltieDel wrote: | | ijijmijij wrote: | Oh yeah I forgot, "meltdown mode", right...
John Parker Wilson for Heisman!!
Hey, he IS at ALABAMA, after all. |
How many times was Wilson drove into the sod at BDS last night? How many times was he flushed? How many times was he rushed? |
I'd say about as many as he's overthrown the player, or as many times as hes been picked off.
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How many times did the offensive line fail to perform their duties properly? How many of them should be replaced? |
The ones that played last night. Should be all hung! LOL
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How many times has the offensive line cost 'Bama football games in the last 10 years? You are silly and by blaming the dismal performance of this team on JPW, you clearly and undeniably illustrate that you know as much about football as you do about common sense. |
About as many times as piss poor coaching and terrbile player adjustments.
All, Bs aside,
I do agree some what let's get the ball in the play makers hands. With all the blitzing Tu was doing we should ran at least one Jail break screen. I truley believe we just had a really bad week. Hopeful we can make some adjustment and get ready for the next game.
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| why all the questions about the deep passing game?why not question what happened to the running game? they had 239 yards on 50 carries against clemson and only 99 yards on 26 carriers against tulane, screw all of the talk of the deep passsing gmae they need to get back ot bascics and run the ball and control the clock
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| Optimus wrote: | | CtrlAltieDel wrote: | | ijijmijij wrote: | Oh yeah I forgot, "meltdown mode", right...
John Parker Wilson for Heisman!!
Hey, he IS at ALABAMA, after all. |
How many times was Wilson drove into the sod at BDS last night? How many times was he flushed? How many times was he rushed? |
I'd say about as many as he's overthrown the player, or as many times as hes been picked off.
| Quote: | | Yes, it is kind of like an abused animal. Why does the beaten dog flinch when some idiot is not even trying to kick it, but only walking past? The dog is not used to a normal situation and doesn't react normally. |
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How many times did the offensive line fail to perform their duties properly? How many of them should be replaced? |
The ones that played last night. Should be all hung! LOL
| Quote: | Right, but according to the armchair QB's, it is Wilson's fault for allowing himself to be spontaneously blown up as soon as he received the snap.
Because he didn't scan the field, check off receivers, etc... in the even one second he had to make decisions before 4 Tulane players attacked him, he is a terrible quarterback. Time for a change. LOL. |
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How many times has the offensive line cost 'Bama football games in the last 10 years? You are silly and by blaming the dismal performance of this team on JPW, you clearly and undeniably illustrate that you know as much about football as you do about common sense. |
About as many times as piss poor coaching and terrbile player adjustments.
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| Quote: | Everyone keeps mentioning reality checks. Let's have a real reality check. Star Jackson is going to suck, he is going to be one of the worst QB's ever at Alabama.
A.J. McCarron will be one the most horrible QB's to ever grace the field as part of the Crimson Tide.
In fact, all QB's at Alabama will be horrible and will never succeed as long as they have to play the game alone, with no help, with no support.
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| CtrlAltieDel wrote: | | jdpas29 wrote: | someone explain to me why when julio or mccoy is 1 on 1 waaaay down near the goal line against a team like tulane... why don't you just throw a jump ball and let the taller man go up and get it or draw the foul???
why does JP try to throw the 40 yard pass on a rope? i understand with someone the height of maze as that might be a liability, but with the taller guys??? |
If it were that easy, football teams would recruit 6'8" guys who casually walked down to the end zone, turned around and simply waited on the jump ball for a 100% guaranteed touchdown.
Football, as a sport, would be revolutionized. Football coaches would hardly even be needed any longer, coordinators would be a thing of the past.
In fact, you would only need a quarterback and one receiver that stood anywhere from 6'8" to 7ft. tall. No other players would be necessary.
Let's all try to be reasonable about things. You can't throw jump balls in an alley-oop fashion whenever you think it is a good idea. Those kind of passes are not precise, they can't be directed to go exactly where they need to go, it just doesn't make sense.
Hey, I have an idea. Why not have an offensive line that can protect a quarterback or open a running lane. I know that is a strange suggestion and doesn't exactly fit in with the new wave of offensive strategy sweeping the nation, but let's give it a shot. |
i think you're going a little far both in your attitude and in what you're assuming. you don't HAVE to be a horse's behind do you? none of us really relished the poor play of our team.
i was merely pointing to the fact that when you have a physical mismatch, why not use it to your advantage.
much like the crappy, jump ball that Brodie Croyle threw in the 2005 TN game that people call the "catch". i guess throws like that are "revolutionary" according to your reasoning. no??? what then???
maybe instead of being a jerk, you could explain why it doesn't make sense to do so on occasion when you have a 6'5" receiver who has a 45' vertical jump being covered 1-on-1 by a 6'0 DB down near the goal line.
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| RunTheFootballJimMcElwain wrote: | | why all the questions about the deep passing game?why not question what happened to the running game? they had 239 yards on 50 carries against clemson and only 99 yards on 26 carriers against tulane, screw all of the talk of the deep passsing gmae they need to get back ot bascics and run the ball and control the clock |
There was no running game because there were no holes. If by a hole, you mean an open space with Tulane players bullrushing through them, we had plenty of those.
John Parker Wilson didn't open up any holes for the running backs, he was too worried about his pretty hair. A good quarterback will bulldoze the defensive linemen out of the way and open up running lanes for his running backs, not our QB though.
In fact, Wilson did not even intitiate any contact with the linebackers. It was almost as if Wilson was scared of the Tulane linebackers. He failed to block them whatsoever.
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| jdpas29 wrote: | | CtrlAltieDel wrote: | | jdpas29 wrote: | someone explain to me why when julio or mccoy is 1 on 1 waaaay down near the goal line against a team like tulane... why don't you just throw a jump ball and let the taller man go up and get it or draw the foul???
why does JP try to throw the 40 yard pass on a rope? i understand with someone the height of maze as that might be a liability, but with the taller guys??? |
If it were that easy, football teams would recruit 6'8" guys who casually walked down to the end zone, turned around and simply waited on the jump ball for a 100% guaranteed touchdown.
Football, as a sport, would be revolutionized. Football coaches would hardly even be needed any longer, coordinators would be a thing of the past.
In fact, you would only need a quarterback and one receiver that stood anywhere from 6'8" to 7ft. tall. No other players would be necessary.
Let's all try to be reasonable about things. You can't throw jump balls in an alley-oop fashion whenever you think it is a good idea. Those kind of passes are not precise, they can't be directed to go exactly where they need to go, it just doesn't make sense.
Hey, I have an idea. Why not have an offensive line that can protect a quarterback or open a running lane. I know that is a strange suggestion and doesn't exactly fit in with the new wave of offensive strategy sweeping the nation, but let's give it a shot. |
i think you're going a little far both in your attitude and in what you're assuming. you don't HAVE to be a horse's behind do you? none of us really relished the poor play of our team.
i was merely pointing to the fact that when you have a physical mismatch, why not use it to your advantage.
much like the crappy, jump ball that Brodie Croyle threw in the 2005 TN game that people call the "catch". i guess throws like that are "revolutionary" according to your reasoning. no??? what then???
maybe instead of being a jerk, you could explain why it doesn't make sense to do so on occasion when you have a 6'5" receiver who has a 45" vertical jump being covered 1-on-1 by a 6'0 DB down near the goal line. |
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| CtrlAltieDel wrote: | | RunTheFootballJimMcElwain wrote: | | why all the questions about the deep passing game?why not question what happened to the running game? they had 239 yards on 50 carries against clemson and only 99 yards on 26 carriers against tulane, screw all of the talk of the deep passsing gmae they need to get back ot bascics and run the ball and control the clock |
There was no running game because there were no holes. If by a hole, you mean an open space with Tulane players bullrushing through them, we had plenty of those.
John Parker Wilson didn't open up any holes for the running backs, he was too worried about his pretty hair. A good quarterback will bulldoze the defensive linemen out of the way and open up running lanes for his running backs, not our QB though.
In fact, Wilson did not even intitiate any contact with the linebackers. It was almost as if Wilson was scared of the Tulane linebackers. He failed to block them whatsoever. |
Here you go CTR I found this for you. You should join up asap!! 
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| Optimus wrote: | | CtrlAltieDel wrote: | | RunTheFootballJimMcElwain wrote: | | why all the questions about the deep passing game?why not question what happened to the running game? they had 239 yards on 50 carries against clemson and only 99 yards on 26 carriers against tulane, screw all of the talk of the deep passsing gmae they need to get back ot bascics and run the ball and control the clock |
There was no running game because there were no holes. If by a hole, you mean an open space with Tulane players bullrushing through them, we had plenty of those.
John Parker Wilson didn't open up any holes for the running backs, he was too worried about his pretty hair. A good quarterback will bulldoze the defensive linemen out of the way and open up running lanes for his running backs, not our QB though.
In fact, Wilson did not even intitiate any contact with the linebackers. It was almost as if Wilson was scared of the Tulane linebackers. He failed to block them whatsoever. |
Here you go CTR I found this for you. You should join up asap!!
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LOL. You got me on that one. I would never join a page like that though, or any MySpace page.
I like Wilson as a QB and think he does extremely well when he actually takes the field with a football team.
Other than that, he isn't really that important in my day to day life.
My only point that I am trying to make by making these absurd statements about him is that it is asinine for clueless posters to come in after a game, like this one against Tulane, and start bashing the QB.
Direct the rants and the bashes at the correct target. The offensive line blew big chunks of crap all over BDS last night, yet hardly a single poster even seems to realize this.
To me, it displays an amazing lack of knowledge. It indicates how far the football IQ of 'Bama fans has dropped over the years.
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