Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: Re: Oh My God....
Crimson&WhiteGecko wrote:
CtrlAltieDel wrote:
djngl1 wrote:
this is music to my ears. I got kicked off every other forum I have been on for being critical of JPW. To now hear someone else echo my thoughts is great. He is a senior and we as fans have the right after spending a couple hundred bucks every weekend and dealing with the troubles of getting to and from the game to criticize a player. I was soooooo upset with JPW last year after the season, we it came time to renew my car tag I chose NEEDQB for my personalized tag. If he leads us to something great I will eat crow, until then.....
Bet you're going to feel like you have been deceived when Star Jackson and McCarron are just as bad or even worse than Wilson.
I listened to the game as called by Eli originally. Last night, I caught the video replay on CSS. After watching the video replay of the game, I'm not nearly as alarmed by the sacks on JPW. It was obvious that, while the OL didn't look stellar, the sacks were primarily due to the running backs not picking up the outside blitz. Tulane did get pressure up the middle several times, but that wasn't entirely unexpected given our OL injuries.
Positives to take out of this:
- Special teams play was much, much better than last week.
- Our 'D' played pretty darn well, not allowing a TD. We gave up too many yards and they bent too much but never broke.
- We only had the one turnover. One is still too many, but at least JPW didn't throw a pick.
Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 7439 Location: NE Atlanta (Lawrenceville)
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:52 am Post subject:
I know I don't know all the ins and outs that many of you do. I know I don't always see the other "stuff" going on inside each play.
I don't have all the answers and don't even have all the questions. I was going to stay completely quiet on this topic, but I just couldn't.
My faith in JPW is wavering at best. I mentioned this last week as well.....as long as he is there forget a downfield threat. I'm OK with that as long as he plays like he did vs. Clemson. I'll take 5-10 yards here and there happily. Unfortunately we weren't able to take advantage of a perceived weakness in Tulane (their secondary). Obviously when JPW has no time I get that we can't set up the deep ball. But, there were times when he did.
Now maybe I don't know how to spot when a WR hasn't run the correct route or maybe I don't get all the other details behind it all. I just know when you have the corner/safety beat and you continually don't put it in the WR's range (and you have the time to set up the throw) you HAVE to look at the QB.
He admits he had a bad game. Fine. I'll be cheering him on next week. I just don't get how we're right back here again. Unfortunately in the offseason Saban basically said JPW is it, so we'd better get behind him. How all these other teams pull in these great QB's and continue just rotating one for another is beyond me right now. I just don't know what to say. _________________
---something with the timing is still off on the long ball. hope that gets fixed by the ark or uga game. maybe it's the receiver or maybe the pressure is throwing off the timing. i dunno... but the long balls over the first 2 games have been consistently overthrown or under-ran (new word!!!).
---something good about his play that i haven't seen was that run he took around the left end. brilliant! the way teams are approaching us is going to leave a lot of room to JP for running. everyone is biting hard on our play action.
Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 7439 Location: NE Atlanta (Lawrenceville)
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:55 am Post subject:
jdpas29 wrote:
---something with the timing is still off on the long ball. hope that gets fixed by the ark or uga game. maybe it's the receiver or maybe the pressure is throwing off the timing. i dunno... but the long balls over the first 2 games have been consistently overthrown or under-ran (new word!!!).
I should have waited for you to post. You said it so much better than me. _________________
Age: 22 Joined: 27 Aug 2007 Posts: 629 Location: Muscle Shoals, AL
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:12 am Post subject:
I say we wait this one out before we start pointing fingers. Let's give them a couple of games to prove themselves. No more rampant expectations after a big win, and at the same time no more meltdowns or pointed fingers after a loss or a not so pretty win. Let the players have a semi-bad day with out searching for a way to point out to them how awful they are, because...if anything..it only adds to the problem. Just give them a chance... _________________
Age: 26 Joined: 11 Aug 2006 Posts: 1104 Location: Daphne, AL
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:05 am Post subject:
AFF wrote:
I listened to the game as called by Eli originally. Last night, I caught the video replay on CSS. After watching the video replay of the game, I'm not nearly as alarmed by the sacks on JPW. It was obvious that, while the OL didn't look stellar, the sacks were primarily due to the running backs not picking up the outside blitz. Tulane did get pressure up the middle several times, but that wasn't entirely unexpected given our OL injuries.
Positives to take out of this:
- Special teams play was much, much better than last week.
- Our 'D' played pretty darn well, not allowing a TD. We gave up too many yards and they bent too much but never broke.
- We only had the one turnover. One is still too many, but at least JPW didn't throw a pick.
I saw Ingram flat out miss a few blocks. _________________
Age: 32 Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 1801 Location: Right behind you.
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:53 am Post subject:
bamanaf wrote:
you're being far to hard on our man at this point.
This is SO true and pretty much sums up the way 90% of our fanbase regards EVERYTHING......without an ounce of honest perspective.
It has been said before but guys.....we are 2-0 and #11 in the nation. It is hard to get jacked up for every game. Give the man a break too. He was behind a patchwork O-line.
Roll Tide! _________________
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* John-117: (Climbs into cryo pod) "Wake me when you need me."
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:40 am Post subject: Re: Response To Wacko Tag Man
CtrlAltieDel wrote:
djngl1 wrote:
i got the tag a couple of weeks after jpw's disaster at starkville. yes it was emotion driven. what other reason would it be? i hate to say it, but i dont believe in him. thats bad i know. hes not my son so i can say that though. i just dont think he is much of a leader. its only an opinion and believe me when i say this I WANT TO BE WRONG ABOUT THIS GUY. i would rather be the laughing stock of a forum with a stupid car tag and have a great football team and qb prove me wrong (run on sentence) than for jpw to continue to be a screw up.
Your capacity for rationality is probably shot on this subject. Not only are you a 30 year old man with a car tag that chastises a man barely out of his teens, but you have freely admitted that you have been banned from many message boards due to your overt obsession with this person.
I do hope that your obsession is limited only to message boards.
As far as the "normal" part of our conversation, there hasn't been a QB born that could thrive at Alabama right now.
I sure hope you weren't expecting anything out of S. Jackson or A.J. McCarron. I wouldn't want you to place any expectations on them and then develop some type of peculiar fixation on them when they too fail.
Those types of situations are not healthy for you or them.
First off, I am completly rational. Yes the tag was completly emotionally driven, however at the end of the day the least to be gained from it is a good laugh. I think it's hilarious. Plenty of other people do also. Now I don't know you personally, but since you have judged me based on my post, I will take the time to do the same. You strike me as the type that yells about all of our National Championships when we lose. A true "Bama can do no wrong" kinda of guy. You need to wake up my friend. Parody and scholarship limitations have leveled the playing field. When you step on the field to play for Bama you best bring it. JPW is not capable of "bringing it". We all have the right to criticize a player. I, just like many, use that right. Now you can sit up there and thumb your nose at people like me and you pat a kid on the back when he does wrong, but thats where you and me are different. I can live with that. You sir seemed to be the one that is fixated, as you put it, on me.
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: Re: Response To Wacko Tag Man
djngl1 wrote:
CtrlAltieDel wrote:
djngl1 wrote:
i got the tag a couple of weeks after jpw's disaster at starkville. yes it was emotion driven. what other reason would it be? i hate to say it, but i dont believe in him. thats bad i know. hes not my son so i can say that though. i just dont think he is much of a leader. its only an opinion and believe me when i say this I WANT TO BE WRONG ABOUT THIS GUY. i would rather be the laughing stock of a forum with a stupid car tag and have a great football team and qb prove me wrong (run on sentence) than for jpw to continue to be a screw up.
Your capacity for rationality is probably shot on this subject. Not only are you a 30 year old man with a car tag that chastises a man barely out of his teens, but you have freely admitted that you have been banned from many message boards due to your overt obsession with this person.
I do hope that your obsession is limited only to message boards.
As far as the "normal" part of our conversation, there hasn't been a QB born that could thrive at Alabama right now.
I sure hope you weren't expecting anything out of S. Jackson or A.J. McCarron. I wouldn't want you to place any expectations on them and then develop some type of peculiar fixation on them when they too fail.
Those types of situations are not healthy for you or them.
First off, I am completly rational. Yes the tag was completly emotionally driven, however at the end of the day the least to be gained from it is a good laugh. I think it's hilarious. Plenty of other people do also. Now I don't know you personally, but since you have judged me based on my post, I will take the time to do the same. You strike me as the type that yells about all of our National Championships when we lose. A true "Bama can do no wrong" kinda of guy. You need to wake up my friend. Parody and scholarship limitations have leveled the playing field. When you step on the field to play for Bama you best bring it. JPW is not capable of "bringing it". We all have the right to criticize a player. I, just like many, use that right. Now you can sit up there and thumb your nose at people like me and you pat a kid on the back when he does wrong, but thats where you and me are different. I can live with that. You sir seemed to be the one that is fixated, as you put it, on me.
Age: 36 Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 896 Location: Birmingham Area
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Response To Wacko Tag Man
djngl1 wrote:
CtrlAltieDel wrote:
djngl1 wrote:
i got the tag a couple of weeks after jpw's disaster at starkville. yes it was emotion driven. what other reason would it be? i hate to say it, but i dont believe in him. thats bad i know. hes not my son so i can say that though. i just dont think he is much of a leader. its only an opinion and believe me when i say this I WANT TO BE WRONG ABOUT THIS GUY. i would rather be the laughing stock of a forum with a stupid car tag and have a great football team and qb prove me wrong (run on sentence) than for jpw to continue to be a screw up.
Your capacity for rationality is probably shot on this subject. Not only are you a 30 year old man with a car tag that chastises a man barely out of his teens, but you have freely admitted that you have been banned from many message boards due to your overt obsession with this person.
I do hope that your obsession is limited only to message boards.
As far as the "normal" part of our conversation, there hasn't been a QB born that could thrive at Alabama right now.
I sure hope you weren't expecting anything out of S. Jackson or A.J. McCarron. I wouldn't want you to place any expectations on them and then develop some type of peculiar fixation on them when they too fail.
Those types of situations are not healthy for you or them.
First off, I am completly rational. Yes the tag was completly emotionally driven, however at the end of the day the least to be gained from it is a good laugh. I think it's hilarious. Plenty of other people do also. Now I don't know you personally, but since you have judged me based on my post, I will take the time to do the same. You strike me as the type that yells about all of our National Championships when we lose. A true "Bama can do no wrong" kinda of guy. You need to wake up my friend. Parody and scholarship limitations have leveled the playing field. When you step on the field to play for Bama you best bring it. JPW is not capable of "bringing it". We all have the right to criticize a player. I, just like many, use that right. Now you can sit up there and thumb your nose at people like me and you pat a kid on the back when he does wrong, but thats where you and me are different. I can live with that. You sir seemed to be the one that is fixated, as you put it, on me.
You sound like an AuNeck. Now you are criticizing other 'Bama fans because 'Bama teams in the past won NC's, typical. What next, AuNeckDingy? Are you going to start bashing Coach Bryant also, maybe Stallings?
The bottom line is that you are a grown man that should have a family and home and responsibilities at this point in your life. Yet, your life revolves around a person barely out of his teens.
It is not that you went out and had the tag custom made, as if you were keyed up on meth, but that you still display the tag.
That all of your posts still revolve around a man that you clearly have personal and deep feelings for. That you have been banned from just about all boards but this one for your unnatural and stalker-like obsession.
You create a fantastical situation that clearly only exists in your head. In stalker man's imaginary land, all your pals and buddies and acquaintances high five you and tell you how intelligent you were for obtaining a tag that bashes a current 'Bama player.
You don't even have the basic common sense that a 12 year old would have that will allow you to see that a quarterback is not the only player on a team.
I understand that you are not mentally all with us and you will continue to respond because you revel and wallow in the attention. I am letting you know that this is my last post to you about this subject, so make your response a good one. _________________ http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s156/CtrlAltieDel/Bama/
You crazy stalkers should both meet at the flag-pole after school and see who is tougher. The loser will be proclaimed the true STALKER! _________________ Pocket Presents
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